Papa Roach, Escape The Fate, and Otherwise Talk "The Connection Tour", Music, "Rock on the Range" and More
Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:47:25
Papa Roach, Escape The Fate, and Otherwise represent three strands of hard rock.
Papa Roach stand out as the 21st century survivors who are "Still Swingin'" live and putting out their best music yet—see last year's The Connection for proof. Then, there's Escape The Fate who emerged out of the burgeoning "scene" with a refined and rocking heavy metal style that's simultaneously bludgeoning and brilliant. Ungrateful, out May 14, will undoubtedly catapult them to the top. Otherwise are the young guns. Their 2012 debut True Love Never Dies exudes swagger and soaring hooks that separates them from the pack. Plus, they've got the keen ability to pen a huge hook.
You can catch the three of them on The Connection tour this spring as well as on Welcome to Rockville [April 27, 28 Jacksonville, FL], Rock on the Range [May 17, 18, 19 Columbus, OH], and Fort Rock [April 14, Ft. Myers, FL].
In this exclusive interview with ARTISTdirect.com editor in chief Rick Florino, the singers, Jacoby Shaddix of Papa Roach, Craig Mabbitt of Escape The Fate, and Adrian Patrick of Otherwise sat down together to talk how they discovered hard rock, the upcoming tour, festivals, and more.
How did the three of you discover hard rock? What inspired you to get into it?
Craig Mabbitt: I always listened to a huge variety of music. I didn't like exactly one type or genre. I listened to a bunch of shit. I went through my parents' collection of records and CDs. I was a huge fan of fifties music for a solid year there. Then, I finally got the balls to sneak out of my house one night and go to a concert because my parents would never let me go. I snuck out, and that concert was the Projekt Revolution tour with Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Adema, Hoobastank, and Cypress Hill. This was in 2003. I was in the fucking front row, and I left with my ears bleeding. I was so excited I couldn't stop telling everybody it was something I wanted to do my life. I was like, "That's got to be me one day man!"
Adrian Patrick: That's awesome! I remember that tour.
Craig Mabbitt: Cypress came out smoking a huge bong! They looked like they owned it. I thought, "I want to be one of those dudes. I don't even care if I'm the guy in the back hanging up the scrim or the banner. I've got to do this with my life."
Adrian Patrick: I grew up listening to a lot of reggae and hip-hop. The first time I got into a mosh pit was at a very early 311 show in Las Vegas at the original Joint. A lot of their early music had a very heavy punk influence. I got into that mosh pit, and I came out with a black eye, a bloody lip, and my shirt was ripped in half. I was hooked after that.
Craig Mabbitt: Dude, I miss mosh pits like that! It's not like that anymore. If you fell down, they would pick you up.
Adrian Patrick: Even though it was a violent atmosphere, there was a brother hood of people watching out for each other. I thought it was awesome.
Jacoby Shaddix: Like Craig was saying, I think a lot of cats from our days coming up listening to a wide variety of music. I was listening to Wu-Tang Clan, Faith No More, and Red Hot Chili Peppers. Then, I was listening to Fugazi and Social Distortion. Then, I got into going to the local shows around here. Deftones was the band. We're from Northern California, and that's where they're from. We began seeing them in the clubs. It was the same thing guys you have been talking about. I'd get in that mosh pit and leave those shows sweaty as fuck [Laughs]. I went into a show at The Cattle Club, and I was like, "This is it. This is my shit man. I want to be in this. I don't want to fucking work. I don't want to fucking go to college. I want to go to the school of rock 'n' roll". Those early Deftones shows were very influential when it came to answering the question, "What the fuck do I want to do with my life at the moment?"
Watch Papa Roach's Video for "Before I Die"
Do you feel like there's a resurgence of rock music happening?
Jacoby Shaddix: From my perspective, we came out in 2000. That was the heyday. Everybody was selling millions of records. We were very fortunate to keep carrying the flag over these past thirteen years. We're very fortunate to still have an impact at rock radio. When you see bands like Escape The Fate come around, you're like, "Fuck yeah!" Then, Otherwise is coming around, and they've got some hits on the radio. Hearing bands carrying that flag of rock 'n' roll and doing it well gets me fucking excited. We've seen these genres come in and out. For a minute, it was the garage rock revolution where every band had "The" at the beginning of its name. Now, on alternative rock radio, you can't even have a guitar in your band. What the fuck? Thank God there are bands like ours who roll through, crank those guitars up, get loud, and get buck fucking wild. This is the spirit of rock 'n' roll on this tour. I'm stoked to be a part of it. I'm stoked to still be here.
Craig Mabbitt: That's what makes me excited too. You see old Papa Roach videos and think, "Damn man, I can't even believe it". Jacoby showed me the first Papa Roach flier from twenty years ago. They made it through all of that bullshit. Escape The Fate is a newer band so we're super excited to be a part of a tour like this and even be on the label we're on, Eleven Seven, with all of these great rock bands who have lasted through the years. I don't even know what it's like to sell records because that's not basis bands work off of these days. We don't work off album sales. I don't even know what it's like to have a gold record. It's cool to be a part of tours like this. It's starting to come back. Last year was the first in a long time when the music business even saw an increase in revenue.
Jacoby Shaddix:Fuck yeah!
Craig Mabbitt: Hopefully, we're starting to see a comeback. Music goes in cycles. Like Jacoby was saying, you can't even have a guitar on your song on most radio stations. It's fucking bullshit. A band is based on instruments. It's not just pressing play on a computer. I'll watch these popular artists play TV shows, and you can just hear the tracks. It makes me so upset. It's so normal for people to do that these days. Back in the day, bands used to have to play the song perfect once because you couldn't record separate parts. I'd like to see rock 'n' roll come back.
Adrian Patrick: This tour is very interesting because of that reason. There are three bands who are carrying the same torch. Bands like Papa Roach paved the way for us to champion the same cause. To be on a tour like this is a great honor. At these festivals, you can see there's a specific vein that kids want to tap into that you can only get from a loud, live rock 'n' roll show. I don't go to rock shows to stare at the ground with my hands in my pockets and listen to tracks. I want to hear live, organic sounds coming from amplifiers and out of a guy's vocals. This tour is going to showcase that. I hope we can give rock 'n' roll the shot of adrenaline it needs.
What are do you look forward to at these festivals like Rock on the Range?
Jacoby Shaddix: For me personally, it's like a rock 'n' roll homecoming. We show up to these festivals, and there are all of these dudes there we've known for years. That extends from band members to crew guys we've worked with. There's a big family vibe backstage, which is cool. Really, that's what I look forward to. You never know who's going to show up or who's going to perform with who at these big festivals. That's fucking rad.
Adrian Patrick: The beautiful thing is to get to watch some of the bands. It's so cool to meet a lot of these people and luminaries of rock 'n' roll we've idolized. I've been in mosh pits to Jacoby's sets. To be on tour with these guys and stand on the side of the stage and watch them play and emulate their craft is amazing.
Jacoby Shaddix: Being on the same bill as The Smashing Pumpkins trips me out [Laughs]. I can't wait to watch Alice in Chains. I'll be like, "Fuck bro, it's Alice in Chains!"
Craig Mabbitt: I'm on the same exact page as you guys. I wanted to do it because I got the family vibe. It goes back to what you were saying Adrian. The second concert I went to was Slipknot, and they did a "Wall of Death". I was like, "This is the fucking coolest shit I've ever been involved in during my life". I remember running into the crowd, getting knocked down, and having everybody try to help me up to rock the fuck out. You got to feel like you were part of something special. It's amazing to see your band name on a festival poster where the headliner is Iron Fucking Maiden.
Adrian Patrick: That's how I felt when I first saw the flier for The Connection tour [Laughs].
Craig Mabbitt: When kids see our band, I see the excitement in their faces. They'll say, "One day I'm going to be on tour with you". It's like, "You know what man? Yes, you fucking will! Keep that attitude!" There's a rad cycle. I want Escape The Fate to celebrate twenty years of touring and bring out some up-and-coming bands and continue that cycle. That's what I like most.
Watch Escape The Fate's "Ungrateful" Video!
It seems like you guys are also bringing girls back to rock music.
Jacoby Shaddix: From the perspective of our career, we started back in 2000, and it was a sausage fest. There were way too many balls at our shows [Laughs]. It was cool we were packing houses and mad fools were coming out. Then, as we started to evolve as a rock band and put out songs like "Scars" and "Forever", now our crowd is fifty-fifty. We see the ladies and the guys coming out. I'm sure you guys can attest the fact that having the ladies at the show brings a whole new dynamic.
Adrian Patrick: Absolutely! It's the better half of the human race, I suppose. To have both energies and see them connect over the same sound is awesome. One of my favorite things to see from the stage is couples. You'll see a guy by a girl with his arm around her waist, and they'll be swaying back and forth. Then, you go to one of your slower songs, and they start kissing. It's awesome! We've even got a dirty party rock song—"Vegas Girl".
Craig Mabbitt: I get that same vibe. Like Jacoby said, for a while there it was too many balls. When we start doing the festivals, I was like, "Wow, there's a significantly larger amount of men" [Laughs]. I thought, "How am I going to impress a dude with a beard, especially looking how our band looks?" I always see a lot of families. I'll see a dad with a kid on his shoulders, teaching him how to do the fucking horns!
When did you first hear each other's bands?
Adrian Patrick: The first time I saw Escape The Fate was at Extreme Thing in Las Vegas. You guys went on right before Five Finger Death Punch, and it was a fucking huge show. There were so many kids out there.
Craig Mabbitt: That was fun! That was the first time I saw you guys too. I've checked out all of your music online. We did a little run together before about two years ago. Those shows were pretty fucking awesome. It's been so long I can't believe we'll be touring again soon.
Adrian Patrick: How long have you been off the road?
Craig Mabbitt: It's going on about two years now. We've done a show here or there, but that's it. We've been going back and forth trying to finish this record.
Adrian Patrick: I've heard a couple snippets of your record here and there, and it's fucking brutal!
Craig Mabbitt: Thanks!
Jacoby Shaddix: I started to really feel Escape The Fate once Craig began singing for them. That's when I became a fan. The song "Zombie Dance" gets me off. I dig that shit. I can't wait to hear the new record.
Craig Mabbitt: I first heard them on "Last Resort". That came out when MTV still showed music videos. I remember constantly seeing it. It felt like the only videos I'd seen that whole year were "Last Resort" and "Toxicity" by System of a Down. It was either one of those two videos I was always seeing.
Is the best feeling to connect with the kids?
Jacoby Shaddix: For me, our connection with the fans is the lifeblood of what Papa Roach is. It's that simple. Without them, we have nothing. We are nothing.
Craig Mabbitt: I was going to say the exact same thing. I've never had the rock star attitude. Local bands will freak out to play with our band, and I'll be like, "I don't know why you think we're good, but that's awesome" [Laughs]. It's cool to see the cycle still going.
Should these three collaborate on a song?
See our latest interview with Jacoby here!
See our review of Escape The Fate's "Ungrateful" here!
Watch our latest video interview with Otherwise here!