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    The Place and the Time

    Moby Grape - The Place and the Time

    04/07/2009 | Sundazed Music Inc. 

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    All Music Guide Review

    With the exception of Badfinger, you'd be had pressed to name an important rock band with a significant body of work who has had a longer and more dismal run of bad luck than Moby Grape, and more than four decades after they released their nearly perfect debut album, they're still struggling to get a fair shake. A Byzantine series of legal disputes with their former manager Matthew Katz (who for years claimed ownership of the group's name, their music publishing, and the rights to reissue their recordings) seemingly ended in 2005, a mere 38 years after Moby Grape fired him, but when Sundazed Records released, remastered, and expanded CD versions of the band's five albums for Columbia in the fall of 2007, Katz filed yet another lawsuit in which he claimed ownership of the cover artwork to the albums Moby Grape, Wow, and Grape Jam (which also happen to be the group's most popular efforts), and Sundazed was forced to pull these three discs from stores only a month after they were released. Those three CDs remain in limbo, but a taste of what they had to offer can be found on The Place and the Time, a collection of rare and unreleased Moby Grape material that features nearly all the bonus material from the expanded editions of Moby Grape and Wow, as well as extras from the Sundazed editions of Moby Grape '69 and Truly Fine Citizen, both of which are still available and unaffected by the Katz lawsuit. While an alternate take of "Miller's Blues" that appeared on the Wow reissue is missing, all the other additional material from those four discs can be found here (the three meandering outtakes from the CD of Grape Jam have been left by the wayside, and they're not likely to be missed), and while that means this set is devoid of relative hits such as "Omaha" or "Hey Grandma," these outtakes, demos, live recordings, and stray items cohere into a fine portrait of what made Moby Grape one of the great (if underappreciated) bands of their era. The superbly interwoven guitar work of Peter Lewis, Jerry Miller, and Skip Spence drives the best songs with an infectious energy, Don Stevenson and Bob Mosley were a powerful and versatile rhythm section, and all five members harmonized beautifully, making even the least of the 24 songs a kick to hear. While the demos and alternate takes that appear on this disc aren't exactly definitive, in many respects the stripped-down versions of "Bitter Wind," "The Place and the Time," and "Miller' Blues" serve the songs better than the more gussied-up official versions on Wow, and given that this group was generally at their best in the studio when the production was simple and to the point, these rarities play to Moby Grape's strong points better than many of their "real" recordings. And the live tapes capture Moby Grape in full flight before the dream began to collapse, and offer a tantalizing picture of how powerful they must have been on a good night. If you're among the lucky few who were able to snatch up the full Sundazed Moby Grape CD catalog before the first three albums were taken off the market, The Place and the Time will be redundant, but if you're one of the many fans who didn't, this disc is a worthwhile consolation prize; it's no substitute for the classic debut album, but this music demonstrates why Moby Grape still matters to so many all these years later. ~ Mark Deming, All Music Guide

    The Place and the Time Track Listing

  • Track#
  • Title
  • time
  • lyrics
  • 1
  • Indifference (Columbia Records Audition Recording)
  • 2:53

  • 2
  • Looper (Columbia Records Audition Recording)
  • 2:37

  • 3
  • Stop (Demo Version)
  • 2:21

  • 4
  • Rounder (Instrumental Outtake)
  • 2:02

  • 5
  • Sweet Ride (Never Again) (From the Sweet Ride)(Version)
  • 5:56

  • 6
  • Loosely Remembered (Demo Version)
  • 3:26

  • 7
  • The Place and the Time (Alternate Version)
  • 2:25

  • 8
  • Bitter Wind (Demo Version)
  • 2:48

  • 9
  • Seeing (Alternate Version)
  • 5:12

  • 10
  • What's to Choose (Alternate Version)
  • 2:01

  • 11
  • Soul Stew (Outtake Recording)
  • 2:19

  • 12
  • If You Can't Learn from My Mistakes (Demo Version)
  • 1:25

  • 13
  • You Can Do Anything (Demo Version)
  • 3:37

  • 14
  • Skip's Song (Demo Version)
  • 3:29

  • 15
  • It's a Beautiful Day Today (Demo Version)
  • 4:14

  • 16
  • What's to Choose (Demo Version)
  • 3:21

  • 17
  • Hoochie (Demo Version)
  • 3:20

  • 18
  • Big (Demo Version)
  • 2:31

  • 19
  • Rounder (Live)
  • 2:02

  • 20
  • Miller's Blues (Live)
  • 6:07

  • 21
  • Changes (Live)
  • 4:18

  • 22
  • Looper (Demo Version)
  • 2:08

  • 23
  • Soul Stew (Instrumental Outtake)
  • 2:20

  • 24
  • Cockatoo Blues (Tongue-Tied) (Demo Version)
  • 3:41

  • The Place and the Time Notes

    Despite a myriad of obstacles, Moby Grape managed to persevere and create a potent and enduring body of recorded work, recording four albums during its original 1967–1969 lifespan. While 1967’s Moby Grape is widely acknowledged as a classic (and one of rock’s greatest debut albums), the subsequent Wow, Moby Grape ’69 and Truly Fine Citizen are all underrated gems with much to recommend them.

    It’s a measure of the musicians’ abundance of talent and creativity that, despite the multiple roadblocks that they confronted, Moby Grape recorded prolifically and cut a wealth of originally unreleased material. The Place and the Time offers a scintillating assortment of rare tracks cut during the band’s heady 1967–1968 heyday. Encompassing audition recordings, album outtakes, alternate versions, live material and more, the recordings offer a powerful testament to the remarkable rapport that made Moby Grape such a unique force.

    The fact that music this stunning and original sat on the shelf for so long is just another in the litany of injustices that haunt the Moby Grape story. But the band’s majestic recorded legacy has outlasted the bad luck, bad choices and bad vibes. The music remains as fresh and inspiring as ever, and the vintage material featured in this collection constitutes a crucial addition to Moby Grape’s already monumental body of work.

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